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As Someone Who Is Looking for Shlichus…

Op-ed: "I read the opinion pieces by Rabbi Gershon Avtzon and Rabbi Shimon Posner. As a yungerman currently looking for shlichus, I would like to suggest 3 points from a different perspective." Full Story

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November 9, 2022 11:10 pm

we should all focus on the kavanna a bit more, and take ourselves seriosly a bit less.

Oy vey
November 9, 2022 11:10 pm

If you want to know what Mesiras Nefesh is, get a job, pay bills and raise a Frum Jewish family in todays world. Waiting around for a Shlichus and preparing for a charity campaign that will sponsor your living expenses in an established Jewish community/going home to join the family business and live near the family – maybe a little less Mesiras Nefesh

A little respect…
Reply to  Oy vey
November 10, 2022 8:10 am

A little respect for the Rebbes shluchim wouldn’t hurt you I promise.
Perhaps consider trading places with a shliach for a year and then tell me if the last year was easy for you bgashmius.

I will Trade
Reply to  A little respect…
November 10, 2022 9:43 pm

absolutely- Cancun or Thailand?

Growing up on shlichus
Reply to  Oy vey
November 10, 2022 9:02 am

YOU obviously DIDN’T grow up on shlichus

Babyish comparison
Reply to  Oy vey
November 10, 2022 9:24 am

Cant compare people’s mesirus nefesh. It all comes down to are you living for only for yourself, taking care of you own, thinking about your own, making sure they’re healthy happy frum etc, or are you sacrificing some of your own to do it for others? Anyone anywhere can do either shluchim or not. Shluchim tend to lean towards the latter so they deserve our respect.

Please follow the ongoing conversartion
Reply to  Babyish comparison
November 10, 2022 10:18 am

ummm, not really. Clearly the market is saturated and if it was that much mesiras nefesh, there would be less demand and more supply. It seems the opposite is true in the current shlichus market.

If you want to see mesiras nefesh, look no further than your own child’s Rebbi.

I’m sorry but….
Reply to  Oy vey
November 10, 2022 1:57 pm

You should really go take a look at the rebbes sichos, and see that respectively you’ve missed the point.

Secondly, speaking in such a manner and such pejorative way about the rebbes soldiers (refer you to the times the rebbe only gave out things to Shluchim etc.) is disgusting and gross.

Not exactly
Reply to  Oy vey
November 10, 2022 6:06 pm

If he’s joining the family business, why is he waiting for Shlichus?

Also, you clearly aren’t working and paying bills if you think a 50-100k charidy campaign is enough to cover a family’s living expenses.

Like how this was realistically expressed
November 9, 2022 11:16 pm

And yet it all comes down to chutzpah. The elder shluchim take advantage and want to show “who’s boss” over the younger shluchim. And the younger shluchim before to go on shlichus were trained by their getze parents (who probably are shluchim themselves) who to “handle” the elder shluchim and thus bumping cars explode into a volcano. Yes even before gimmel tammuz there has been unpleasant circumstances between shluchim and even our Rebbe knew and was involved. Stop this ping pong fighting. Preaching moshiach and fighting with fellow shluchim is definitely not the recipe for our Rebbes hisgalus. Elder chassidim… Read more »

November 9, 2022 11:42 pm

You can be a Shliach of Hashem to do good for your fellow Jew because you are one Mamash in your source. Fill your shabbos table with guests from around where you live, even if that’s New York. There are many Jews, even those from Chabad homes who need a helping hand from a Shliach.

As someone also looking for shlichus
November 10, 2022 12:21 am

Very true points!
We’ve looked into a number of viable offers and are hopefully settling on one soon.
“There is nothing left” is a cop out.
As a corporation grows, it hires more people and the same is with shlichus! There has been so much growth and there is so much room for more expansion – but not always is it glamorous.
While life isn’t easy anywhere, shlichus has its own unique set of challenges that you have to be ready to embrace

As shluchim
November 10, 2022 12:36 am

This is SO accurate. Being somewhere new and exciting alone used to be the ideal of mesiras nefesh, now it’s about learning to work with other shluchim for the benefit of the whole – knowing that you’re probably never gonna get the praise, recognition, or even the feeling that you’re doing something big and important

Hope you can land a shlichus
November 10, 2022 1:31 am

I’d be interested in seeing the contracts that Shluchim are signing or being asked to sign.

November 10, 2022 2:25 am

Very well written. Moshiach now!

If you see an issue your shlichus is the solution
November 10, 2022 3:54 am

Be the change you wanna see!!!!

Foot Soldiers vs. Officers
November 10, 2022 7:58 am

Since this OP discusses shlichus in the context of the Rebbe’s war, I wonder what position he would prefer. In IDF culture, there’s a big emphasis on which unit one ends up in. Similarly, one thing we learn from Putin’s ymch’sh war is that he’s enlisting young men as cannon fodder and still losing because of a lack of good officers in the strategic and intelligence arena. The Rebbe’s army today suffers from Putin’s malady, we have thousands of foot soldiers in the field, to the point where there’s no room for more and what in war lingo is called… Read more »

Reply to  Foot Soldiers vs. Officers
November 10, 2022 9:05 am

At this point being in chinuch in a Lubavitch moisad (even in CH) means you are on the front lines fighting to maintain Yiddishkeit.

Reply to  Chinuch
November 10, 2022 10:37 am

This is a sad commentary if true. I would hope that someone in chinuch is in the upper echelons – right beside the Rebbe, our Commander in Chief – of leading the next generation of Lubavitchers.

You are correct
Reply to  Foot Soldiers vs. Officers
November 10, 2022 10:35 am

In general in Lubavitch we devalue people who are more introverted and scholarly and less gregarious. Not everyone is cut out to run a summer camp or a rousing college shabbos table. Let everyone shine with the gifts and personality traits Hashem gave them.

November 10, 2022 8:24 am

There’s more opportunities for Shlichus than there are current shluchim. There are more Jews who don’t have significant contact with Chabad than there are that do. The issue is funding and territory. I think we need to find a way to connect Chabad chassidim with the rest of world Jewry without requiring these chassidim to set up job and do full time fund raising. I don’t know the answer, but lot’s of chassidim are looking to move out of Crown Heights and NY generally. They don’t need to be official shluchim to do serious shlichus work. Shluchim on the ground… Read more »

November 10, 2022 8:41 am

Shlichus and mesiras nefesh the way it has been taught is a personal and supposedly intractable thing. Being an employee for a shliach who can fire you on a whim isn’t mesiras nefesh – it’s devastating.

There is one more frontier
November 10, 2022 8:57 am

Something that is missing in this piece is the last frontier – moving “in” to become Shluchim in Lubavitch communities. Our youth, our families, our parents are all falling apart at the seams. There are limitless programs and events that can be done to take care of our own. A loving and warm Shliach to guide….
This type of Shlichus is so unique. It is not celebrated by anyone, nor is there any respect or reward but if the Rebbe cared about souls, which is what he did, then the souls of our own desperately need this too!

Yeitzer Harah
November 10, 2022 8:58 am

I’m not here to say Shlichus is wrong. It’s definitely the rite thing to do. From what I’ve seen. (BH we live in frum community and raising family. About an hour away from Crown Heights) Unfortunately Ive seen Sheluchim coming in other community’s, even where other Shluchim have established. 30 or so years before, and coming in “they are the boss” I’m here “your not going to do nothing. Head Shlicach sent me here. Out! My first question is where did this attitude come and where’s the respect? Unfortunately I’ve seen Shluchim where they come in especially the new ones… Read more »

high bar
Reply to  Yeitzer Harah
November 22, 2022 2:50 am

so your saying walking around with out a hat and jacket or having a certain type of car looks bad? I respectfully think as long asyou do whats right dress modestly behave appropriately other little stuff shouldn’t be looked down it though it may be the right way to things

November 10, 2022 9:33 am

I’m not saying you don’t have valid points. But I think the original op -Ed was focusing on totally a different perspective.

Reply to  Disagree
November 10, 2022 2:20 pm

I was thinking the same.

Sorry but such a guy is no longer a shliach!
November 10, 2022 9:34 am
November 10, 2022 9:49 am

If you are a couple looking for Shlichus – in tri state area
With your info

November 10, 2022 12:22 pm

Very nice
If I had a spot for you
I would definitely bring you down!

November 10, 2022 1:20 pm

If you are a couple looking for Shlichus – in california area
With your info

Let us focus....
November 10, 2022 2:29 pm

Many have said valid points. But a critical aspect is missing in that all have a “shlichus” in the world. No one could minimize a talented speaker or singer against a real outback shliach in a forlorn area. Also, if some feel inadequate that they did not end up on shlichus, let them search if there shlichus was elsewhere in the community they lived in..even back in the early days the Rebbe did not necessarily envision every chosid a shliach in a transatlantic world. So the idea that the up and in thing is for al l to go far… Read more »

Just an Idea
November 10, 2022 4:47 pm

Maybe an option for couples looking to go on shlichus would be to move to a small town that has a shaliach, and be machzik them by just being congregants…finding jobs in the town, and adding another frum family to the area? For instance, let’s say there’s a shaliach somewhere in Pennsylvania (3 hour or so drive from Crown Heights), why not move there? Find regular jobs or start a business, with your living expenses a fraction of what they are in Crown Heights. It won’t be an “official” shlichus, but you’ll be able to help strengthen the efforts of… Read more »

Reply to  Just an Idea
November 11, 2022 1:23 am

Good luck finding a shliach interested in having a full community of Frum jews attending his weekly services. He will lose all his congregants in a few months. The average not yet Frum jew would be scared off by all the Frum one, and feel out of place.

Just an Idea
Reply to  Dude....
November 11, 2022 12:08 pm

I’m not suggesting a “full community” by any means…I don’t think that would work at all. Max. 2-3 families per chabad house would work I think. I think they would have a good hashpa’ah on the community and the kids of shluchim would have frum friends

We’ll written article
November 10, 2022 6:07 pm

Shlichus isn’t a place. It’s a frame of mind.

You always find your shlichus
November 14, 2022 1:50 am

If you don’t have close relatives in Shlichus My recommendation for most ppl would be to set a fixed period of time to find a Shlichus
During This time , do a lot of mivtzoym and I mean a lot , forcing yourself to be very outgoing and making many connections
this will develop your personality and mindset to start a business once the time of search expires , and become a successful entrepreneur, then you are going to see how your Shlichus appears to you automatically

November 14, 2022 11:59 am

Shlichus can mean many things. It can be to provide things for jews that they don’t have in their area. Like opening a kosher grocery or judaica store. Or even opening a factory to make it.

November 15, 2022 9:36 pm

Most very successful shluchim establish a COMMUNITY.
A community really thrives when it has a school.
a school needs teachers.
A teacher in an out of town community is already a shliach.
That should be enough for many people.
If you really have the drive and talent you will move into full time shlichus.
It is there for you.
Take it.