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Erev Shabbos Street Music Should Reflect Our Shchuna

From the COLlive inbox: As a long-time resident of Crown Heights, I've noticed a disturbing trend in recent months in Shchuna, particularly on Erev Shabbos. Full Story

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Play music
April 10, 2023 8:59 pm

I think the CH Vaad should hire a live band to play for the shchuna!

Reply to  Play music
April 10, 2023 10:03 pm


A little extreme
April 10, 2023 9:02 pm

It’s not so bad that there is fast upbeat music being played on the streets, it brings a lively energy to the shchuna while nichoach won’t.

Say what?
Reply to  A little extreme
April 10, 2023 11:46 pm

There is plenty of “fast upbeat” music on Nichoach too. Have you never been to a chassidishe farbrengen?

Noice is a problem in general in nyc
April 10, 2023 9:07 pm

Noice pollution
All the unnecesary sirens that exist.
Police over use theirs (that are totally unncesariy to begin with) in am hours like nothing. Trucks use theirs despite being a prohibtion to use them in cities. Certain people with the full blast. Motorcycle and quads gangs (another illegal thing that no one is interested in enforcing) wait until they bring 2 buses lines to pass throught crown heights.

Reply to  Noice is a problem in general in nyc
April 10, 2023 10:00 pm

Those who flunked spelling have no place in the comment section!

Im amazed
Reply to  English
April 10, 2023 11:20 pm

That mods admin let this comments publized but not my OWN ones

April 10, 2023 9:09 pm

Suck it up. Do you think by Simchas Beis when Moshiach comes we will be playing Nichoach?! The point is to be uplifting and joyous. That’s the music they play. Every song has toichen. So you don’t like the style? It’s “non-Jewish” you can say that about niggunim too which sound like Russian Folk Music. Every genre has the potential for kedusha.

Omer Adam
Reply to  Anonymous
April 10, 2023 9:53 pm

Are you saying that Omer Adam had Kedusha?!?!? He doesn’t even have a beard!! Besides Simchas Beis has its own issues.

Reply to  Omer Adam
April 10, 2023 10:33 pm

Bro, if he was frum ge wouldnt have a beard… he isnt chabad and is Israeli 🙂

And lashon hara is our style?
Reply to  Omer Adam
April 10, 2023 11:44 pm

Not trying to be judgemental, but try saying what you want without naming names.

Reply to  Omer Adam
April 10, 2023 11:56 pm

Every Jew has Kedusha. Omer Adam has a few songs that are kedusha. Now I’m not in CH enough to know what exact songs they play. However, everytime I have been it’s only been kedushadik songs.

Yes they will
Reply to  Anonymous
April 10, 2023 10:08 pm

By Moshiach they will actually play nichoach!!

Reply to  Yes they will
April 10, 2023 11:56 pm

The Gemera describes that they got the loudest must upbeat music they could find. No they wont be playing Nichoach.

That’s not what Halacha says
Reply to  Anonymous
April 10, 2023 10:11 pm

Haha you sound like a lubab. Only in your holy city of CH does this happen

Reply to  That’s not what Halacha says
April 10, 2023 11:26 pm

Um ya, this is a Chabad site; you could go back to Yeshiva World News if you want. We don’t welcome disrespectful snags over here

Really, now?
Reply to  That’s not what Halacha says
April 10, 2023 11:53 pm

Where does your invented halachah say what kind of music they will or won’t play? Yes, they will most certainly play melodies of kedusha, which includes Lubavitcher niggunim.

Excuse me?!
Reply to  Anonymous
April 10, 2023 11:48 pm

“Suck it up”?! Speaking of pritzus’dike talk!

And yes, every song has toichen, but some of them have a negative one. Look at what Chazal say about Elisha Acher and the non-Jewish songs he used to sing.

Ignore it
April 10, 2023 9:10 pm

It doesn’t bother me too much

April 10, 2023 9:12 pm

Completely disagree I think that it enhances the atmosphere of erev shabbos

Totally agreed
April 10, 2023 9:13 pm

Enough with this modern decadant music it’s gross that the standard of music that people listen to sunk so low. DONT YOU TELL ME THIS RAP MUSIC OR ELECTRO IS TALANT!!!!!

You know what you sound like?
Reply to  Totally agreed
April 10, 2023 11:23 pm

Arabs love to complain about “Western decadence”.

Reply to  Totally agreed
April 10, 2023 11:57 pm

As a bochur who writes raps. You are wrong.

April 10, 2023 9:22 pm

The point could be true for some people but Shabbos is all about rest and enjoyment, and for every person that’s a different level. For some people that’s the kind of music that puts them into their Shabbos mode.

So there can’t be just one rule or opinion about Erev Shabbos music cuz everyone celebrates Shabbos in their own way.

Reply to  Yossi
April 10, 2023 11:56 pm

So suppose someone’s rest and enjoyment is playing video games. Or music. Or painting. Are all of those valid ways to celebrate Shabbos too?

Shabbos is not “all about rest and enjoyment”; those are important aspects of it, but fundamentally it’s about reconnecting with Hashem.

Got a solution!
April 10, 2023 9:22 pm

Weinsteins sells ear plugs and perhaps also blind folds, that should help with your erev shabbos errands, If that doesn’t do the trick, we are on serious trouble…

Simchas Beis
Reply to  Got a solution!
April 10, 2023 9:55 pm

Perfect! This can also solve the Pirtzus issue by simchas Beis. Great thinking!

Reply to  Got a solution!
April 10, 2023 10:09 pm


ביזבוז זמן
April 10, 2023 9:24 pm

First off, I want to thank this gentleman from our community or as he says “resident” for taking the serious needs of our community into consideration and bringing this up during yomtov! Kol Hakavod!

But I do must comment, that perhaps writing something like this on this subject and saying how this is bad just seems like a giant waste of time. Especially during זמן חירותינו!!!

“Especially during זמן חירותינו"?
Reply to  ביזבוז זמן
April 10, 2023 11:57 pm

On the contrary, that’s the best time to bring up an issue regarding keeping apart from non-Jewish ways.

April 10, 2023 9:26 pm

Yes I absolutely agree. We are a holy Shchuna of the Rebbe. Let’s keep the Main Street of our city pure.

How about our restaurants
April 10, 2023 9:26 pm

I’ve asked this many times you bring people to enjoy the ruchnius then go to a restaurant and the atmosphere is……

April 10, 2023 9:28 pm

There is this new invention called headphones. If you don’t like the music put them in. You can take your opinions and play them to yourself in your headphones so you can feal like you are holier then everyone else.

Reply to  Oy
April 10, 2023 9:58 pm

Is that what you would tell your children when they go to the American DJ pritzus festival???

Reply to  Oy
April 10, 2023 10:05 pm

I totally agree.
(Feel is spelled with two E’s not a E And A)

I'm sorry
Reply to  Oy
April 10, 2023 11:04 pm

I’m not sure what new innovation you’re talking about! Last I checked headphones go over your ears, not in them, AirPods go in.

April 10, 2023 9:35 pm

If this is satire, you did great

Lucas Province
Reply to  Lol
April 11, 2023 12:55 am

it is lol but I think he could’ve dwelled more on the multitudes of genres so we could have had a ascending-descending graph from holy and not.

The rebbes shchuna
April 10, 2023 9:39 pm

Beautifully written. Couldn’t agree more.

Another concerned citizen
April 10, 2023 9:41 pm

How does everyone always find someone to complain about?
Next thing you know, someone will have problems with the eiruv!!
Stop the nonsense and mind your own business…

Reply to  Another concerned citizen
April 10, 2023 10:12 pm

What eiruv?? Where?

Reply to  Another concerned citizen
April 10, 2023 11:06 pm

If you were joking then that was a terrific joke, otherwise…

Odd, you know
Reply to  Another concerned citizen
April 11, 2023 12:10 am

The Torah tells us to mind others’ business. הוכח תוכיח את עמיתך, and כל ישראל ערבים זה לזה, and so forth. Do you think you know better?

Another concerned citizen
April 10, 2023 9:41 pm

Another op ed with someone complaining??
Welcome to hardships of living in the shchuna

April 10, 2023 9:42 pm

Which shiur daled bochur wrote this? 😀

Worried crown heights mother
Reply to  Bochur
April 11, 2023 12:03 am

What makes you think it was a bachur. Sometimes some people have serious issues they want to discuss (I happen to disagree with this fellow)

Lucas Province
Reply to  Bochur
April 11, 2023 12:57 am

It’s mesivta :facepalm:

April 10, 2023 9:47 pm

And the music over sukkos is better?

April 10, 2023 9:53 pm

Not against Israeli pop music. My kids listen to it all the time BUT I’m an out-of-towner from Florida. Brought my family to Kan Tzive for pesach and we went to visit 770 almost right away to get into the vibe. After leaving 770 with my children who are keenly aware of its status of Bais Rabainu as the Rebbe told us, I was disappointed to walk into a flower booth right by the dreidel that was blasting Israel beats.

April 10, 2023 10:03 pm

The bochrim got their phones back for bein hazmanim!! @Author

A chassidishe bochur who cares for the shchuna
April 10, 2023 10:14 pm

I happen to agree, and to take it a step further, I believe a ban all on music thats nichoach is in order.
Also another problem I’d like to touch upon is simchas beis, I believe only bochurim who have completed Tanya baal per should be allowed entry, for only they can with stand the taivos olem haazeh(or a brunoy bochur)

A grub baal habos
Reply to  A chassidishe bochur who cares for the shchuna
April 10, 2023 10:33 pm

Um excuse me? There are so many things wrong with what you wrote.
First how do you suppose we ban what people do in private? That’s not darchei chabad.
Second your Simcha beis comment is crazy!! I don’t even need to mention why.
And your brunoy bochur thing is just down right wrong, a bochurs yeshiva doesn’t define him.(for example you can have a chassidishe bochur in oholei torah)

Another Chassidishe Bochur who cares…
Reply to  A chassidishe bochur who cares for the shchuna
April 10, 2023 10:49 pm

For sure the whole thing. If not, just Likkutei Amarim will do.

April 10, 2023 10:15 pm

This will all be moot because we’ll be in Aveilus with Sefira after Yom Tov, with music forbidden

April 10, 2023 10:18 pm

Okay, Nichoach is going a little bit overboard. Best case scenario would be Niggunim, even if it’s upbeat with Israeli singers, it still has a chassidishe aspect to it. If it’s going to be music though, at least it should be a Yiddishe style (and don’t act like you’re not sure what a Yiddishe style is nowhere days) and sung by people who you would want your children to have as a role model. And here’s (for some odd reason) a hot take: Just because the guy has a Bris and the lyrics sound inspirational doesn’t mean it’s fit to… Read more »

It isn’t the music rather the noise..
April 10, 2023 10:21 pm

Yechi isn’t any better….

April 10, 2023 10:21 pm

Why do people think nowadays that just because the guy is Jewish that it’s fit for Lubavitcher Chassidim?! Most of the songs nowadays barely give any impression that it’s made by a yid, and is promoting ANYTHING to do with Yiddishkeit!

Not nichoach
April 10, 2023 10:26 pm

Walking through the shechuna with blasting omer adam isn’t the greatest either, there is somewhat of a problem but the 1960s nichoach is not a solution

Don't be a davkanik
Reply to  Not nichoach
April 17, 2023 2:32 pm

I don’t think that nichoach was meant as the only solution… I think that was an example of chassidishe niggunim that are fit for the rebbes shchuna. If you want you can put menachem amar instead

Everybody calm down
April 10, 2023 10:46 pm

In these days, free speech is relevant as ever. People do what they want, say what they want, and even think what they want. Therefore, there is no way you’ll be able to ban someone from playing the music they choose no matter how vulgar it may be (like gad elbaz) as this is not your place at all. What we really should be focusing on here is the chinuch of our children, how they’ve come to see music like this as totally normal and acceptable. Parents need to step up and educate their children how music has such a… Read more »

Why us?!
Reply to  Everybody calm down
April 17, 2023 2:35 pm

Why should the people who are trying to stay clean and pure have to suffer and carry around an mp3 and headphones all day to avoid hearing goyishe songs?!(just cuz the singer had a bris doesn’t make the song jewish כנ”ל) Maybe the ones who want to listen to all these grubbe songs should have to wear the headphones.

April 10, 2023 10:49 pm

Why do you care about everyone else’s Yiddishkeit mind your own business everyone has there own way of Yiddishkeit so don’t bud in to someone else’s business

It's not butting in.
Reply to  Why??
April 17, 2023 2:38 pm

It’s not called butting in when you are playing music on the streets THAT IM WALKING ON its called worrying for myself and others like me. Nobody’s telling you not to listen to goyishe music by yourself (besides halacha kol Isha vechulu) but to play it on our streets needs to stop now.

The only real Lubavitcher left
April 10, 2023 10:51 pm

I say just Expand770 and all will be well!

Purim parody during Passover
April 10, 2023 11:03 pm

I love this

Other points of concern
April 10, 2023 11:06 pm

Apparently, much of the music played by DJs, (the latest “in” thing at chassenas) has inappropriate lyrics, to say the least! Just because we don’t understand what is being “sung” doesn’t make it kosher.

April 10, 2023 11:07 pm

This is something to complain about? It’s really not a big deal. Put in earphones or just tune it out!
You can’t control everything

Do you own the street?
April 10, 2023 11:20 pm

I don’t understand why people playing music in the street is a community issue. If it bothers you, file a noise complaint with the city by calling 311. If it doesn’t bother you enough to do that, then leave it alone.

Get with the times
April 10, 2023 11:22 pm

Hey, if you’re not feeling the tunes on our street, you can always move somewhere else, no biggie. Music changes all the time, it’s just the way it is. And if you don’t like the way our community is heading, maybe consider packing up and heading over to Kingston, Pennsylvania. Oh, and by the way, if you’re the one writing this article, it sounds like you might have some other stuff on your mind and more reasons for moving too. Just sayin’.

Um hello?!?!
Reply to  Get with the times
April 17, 2023 2:41 pm

It’s not your hip community where you can do whatever you want. It’s first and foremost the rebbes shchuna and we have to keep it and behave in a way that’s fit and reflects that.

April 10, 2023 11:30 pm

Soon it’ll be kol isha and non Jewish music altogether. At the rate we’re going none of us will have Jewish grandchildren. Chevra, do teshuvah!

April 10, 2023 11:32 pm

Seems like someone got ripped off at the flower shop……

Time To Leave Mitzraim, For Real
April 10, 2023 11:55 pm

Get this individual HeadPhones and let him listen to whatever music he likes and as LOUD
as he likes and not impose his GARBAGE in our domain…
Chag KOSHER V”Sameach

Did you try asking him?
April 11, 2023 12:10 am

You’re making an entire op-ed about a singular man that runs a flower booth on the street and is trying to create good vibes. Maybe to to him directly.

April 11, 2023 12:24 am

I definitely agree with the author that regardless of what people personally listen to, as a community, only high standards of music should be playing on our streets. Families who stick to a higher standard should be respected. You can argue that the kids will anyways hear lower standards outside the home, but in this case it’s coming from within the community, on our streets.
Maybe Nichoach is a little much to ask for though 🙂

From LA
April 11, 2023 12:33 am

I was in CH a few months ago and the guy selling flowers on the corner of crown and Kingston was blasting music that did not fit CH at all (I think it was trance music). I politely and humorously told him “let me be your DJ for a few minutes. You know flowers, but I know music.” With a huge smile, he said “absolutely – go ahead.” I put quick Playlist together of some awesome Fried, MBD, Lubavitch niggunim and shabbis songs – and he was thrilled – singing along our loud. I told him “this is awesome music”… Read more »

Koran Heights
April 11, 2023 12:48 am

Hm. Certainly all citizens should follow the preferences of certain authority regarding what music is allowed on the public streets in Brooklyn and how how people should dress and what language they should speak and what speed they should walk and which side certain genders should walk.