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If They Can Have It, Why Can’t I?

From the COLlive inbox: "What will convince me and my friends to maintain a standard that the generation above us clearly does not? They told us what to do in school but don't show it in practice." Full Story

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Rabbi Nachum Pressman, 50, OBM

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Thank you!
March 7, 2022 11:35 pm

Thank you for bringing up this important point! I am definitely at fault and I do think about it sometimes. It’s nice to get a reminder and I’ll definitely try to be better about going on my phone too often.

worse than you think
March 7, 2022 11:35 pm

at every family gathering and simcha there are ppl on their phones
the adults are more addicted than the kids

I Agree!!!
March 7, 2022 11:37 pm

This should definitely be addressed!!!

Go Shlomy
March 7, 2022 11:54 pm

That’s why you gave to listen to rabbi Sternberg’s speech!!!
Saved my life
I’m now married and never would have been so happy I’m happier than my friends who had and have phones and are on it more than they sleep
Nearly half of Americans consider themselves addicted to cell phones. 43% say that their phone is their most valuable possession. 83% of Americans feel uneasy leaving their phone at home. 54% of people say they panic when their cell phone battery goes below 20%.

Yep
Reply to  Go Shlomy
March 8, 2022 1:26 pm

Rabbi mintzberg does similar speeches truly life changing. A turning point in my life

Yes indeed
March 8, 2022 2:10 am

אל תאמין בעצמך עד יום מותך
No matter what the age there will always be challenges

Shita
March 8, 2022 2:10 am

Bchlal why do we have phones?

Lol
Reply to  Shita
March 8, 2022 2:39 pm

Where do you come from, nevel?

Also
March 8, 2022 2:13 am

Remember it’s not an excuse to have an unfiltered phone because your mechanchim also do. Yetser hara right there
You have the power to make ur own choices as well

Thanks for sharing
Reply to  Also
March 8, 2022 1:17 pm

Totally not that point. What you say is true, but not her point.
She is saying people have to practice what they preach in order to make a difference.

Over your head
Reply to  Also
March 8, 2022 1:38 pm

That’s not the point. It’s hard to leave aside your phone when your parents who want you to are sitting glazy eyed at their phones on the couch and you can’t.

Because you're a child
March 8, 2022 2:15 am

Not such a mind blowing concept that adults can have access to things that are restricted to children.
And yes, we know the dangers because many of us have fallen prey to them so we are trying to protect you

Adults have self control
March 8, 2022 2:18 am

And kids don’t. Hence their need for filters

Unm
Reply to  Adults have self control
March 8, 2022 10:01 am

With all due respect do you??

Derech eretz
March 8, 2022 2:20 am

I don’t know what happened to today’s generations kids. Where are their derech eretz to their parents standards and decisions. Children should not interfere in their parents technology use, it’s none of their business. Know your place and child and keep to it. When is it normal for children to stand up to their parents in this manner. Yeridos hadoros is a real thing I am sad to realize

Valid point
Reply to  Derech eretz
March 8, 2022 7:15 am

But the amount of use of technology, especially in kids faces, is infuriatingly hypocritical

I agree with what you say in general
Reply to  Derech eretz
March 8, 2022 7:25 am

This is different. It’s like saying I watch movies all day, wear what I want, have no filter on my phone and can see the most repulsive things on my phone if I want but you children have to be different. We teach by example. We cannot show our children double standards.

yeridas hdoros
Reply to  Derech eretz
March 8, 2022 8:39 am

Respect is something earned, not imposed. When children see their parents on their phones all day why should they respect them? Instead of doing something meaningful like learning or working, they’re entertaining themselves. Maybe in earlier Generations Children looked up to their parents as role models, Maybe the yeridas hadoros didn’t start from the kids.
You can instruct a child to ACT respectfully, but you cannot instruct him to respect.

Wow! Who gave YOU YOUR derech eretz?!
Reply to  Derech eretz
March 8, 2022 12:21 pm

You are a childs parent (unfortunately)- a shliach from Hashem to guide HIS CHILD! NOT YOUR CHILD’S BOSS! Children have the same boss as you: which is Hashem himself! Where do parents have the chutzpah to go against Hashem and impose on their kids that “I’m your G-d “?! Hashem says if your parents ask you to Mechalel shabbos, you have to DISOBEY THEM and keep shabbos. Same goes for any other mitzvah. So get to know your own G-d before to be your “child’s G-d”!

Well adjusted
Reply to  Derech eretz
March 9, 2022 10:32 am

You sound like you have well adjusted children.

Hahah
Reply to  Derech eretz
March 9, 2022 10:09 pm

Just want to point out that this comment was written at 2:20 am

By the way
March 8, 2022 2:24 am

It’s all because of the twisted system we’re in

Car
March 8, 2022 3:55 am

My 15 year old wants to know “if my parents can drive a car, why can’t I?”
Well if the answer is that the danger diminishes as you get older then same goes for unfiltered phone although I agree that it should be filtered.

Not a good example
Reply to  Car
March 8, 2022 1:33 pm

Your 15-year-old can’t get a driver’s license. Cellphones aren’t regulated like that (perhaps they should be!)

15 year olds can get their permit
Reply to  Not a good example
March 8, 2022 4:49 pm

^^

Hmm
Reply to  Car
March 17, 2022 11:46 pm

While it’s true the challenge is EVEN stronger at the age of raging hormones (pre-teens and teens), but the challenge is just as strong for full grown adults, and it should be, it’s a healthy sign that their biology is working correctly. Just because the challenge is even stronger for a teen, than doesn’t mean that the adult can sit back and pretend the challenge isn’t real to us adults.

Adults make mistakes
March 8, 2022 5:39 am

If you realize they are mistakes then you can be smart and not make the same mistakes so at least you will have a better life. Remember the only person you can control is yourself

True
Reply to  Adults make mistakes
March 8, 2022 2:41 pm

Thank you for sharing

I agree with the author
March 8, 2022 5:58 am

And I’m a mother who DOES have a filter on my phone. I wouldn’t feel right to tell my kids they could only have a device with a filter if my devices didn’t have one. I don’t see how that lesson could be transmitted. Children learn from what we do, more than they learn from what we say. The best way to teach the younger generation healthy phone use is to practice it ourselves. And as the author pointed out its more than just having a filter.

Crazy
March 8, 2022 6:49 am

My daughter came home one day and said that her teacher was in the class and said something like stupid ——, and she said but when I say that word my principal yells at me , how is that normal

How it works
Reply to  Crazy
March 8, 2022 1:03 pm

Is that teachers can talk how they want

A hundred porcent
March 8, 2022 6:59 am

Let’s go back to the flip phones or blackberry

It sabes so much time and it keeps you conected to youre buddies much more

Would love too
Reply to  A hundred porcent
March 8, 2022 9:41 am

After I went through three flip phones in one year and then got a blackberry which went great and now which isn’t used anymore because if the 3t or 4t whatever. Point is the flip phones are practically disposable and so poorly made and are $200 too. Oh there’s a $75 one that the alarm doesn’t work….. I wish they were slightly better quality that they will be able to call and text and have be slightly functional and useable as smart phones are not the best for me and for most of us.

a proud flip phone user
Reply to  Would love too
March 8, 2022 11:53 pm

well it looks like you got too used to the smart phone.
because i have a flip phone that works perfectly for all the things you described, and there are even with 4g, and i know as well many of my brothers adn friends who have flip phones and they work for them perfectly and theyre happy. and also you can find good flip phones for 50-100 dollars.

If this was true...
Reply to  a proud flip phone user
March 17, 2022 11:49 pm

Please enlighten us with which model you own so we can get it. Finding a proper working flip phone is actually not simple. I’ve been kicked off of every simple whole I had by the service providers “Sorry, we are dropping 2G” “Sorry we are dropping 3G” “Sorry your phone won’t work with our service, you need a smartphone”

ok here you are
Reply to  If this was true...
June 16, 2022 7:13 pm

1 option : etalk verizon 4g lte phone
2 option: alcatel 4g new phone

What worked for us
March 8, 2022 7:37 am

In our home, we all have strong filters on our phones. This included parents and children who are now all out of school. I believe that making sure we, as parents, had good filters, helped them with their decision. They know, that since they are adults, anytime they want a site or time frame opened (temporarily or permanently), we will open it for them. We respect their decisions. Additionally, all computers and laptops have the same filtering system. The same categories and sites are open or blocked equally for all of us. We need to realize, that in today’s world,… Read more »

Kol hakavod!
March 8, 2022 7:59 am

This is absolutely true! Parents need to wake up to the biggest challenge of today’s generation! Be a good example for your children!

Gentech
March 8, 2022 9:56 am

Do they still come to jcm once a week?

This article is 💯 true

Yes smartphones are a blessing and a curse
March 8, 2022 10:18 am

I am grateful for a phone that allows me to do my job as an RN to monitor my patient in real time. But when I come, it goes on the kitchen counter while I play with my little one. I specifically didn’t take a job that had a heavy “on-call” commitment because I want to be able to put my phone down. I don’t want my child to feel that the phone has my attention and I am also kinda-sorta-listening-to-her. I know that ditching smart phones isn’t feasible (for me it’s not) for many people. But filters and time… Read more »

So true
March 8, 2022 10:23 am

As both parents and educators, we need to address our own “smart” phone addictions before we can even begin to expect a child or teenager not to use. Make the switch to talk/text today and use the internet on a computer. You will immediately feel so much healthier, and set a good example for the next generation of K’lal Yisrael.

Wow!
March 8, 2022 10:52 am

Love this article. Adults need to hear more from teens, how many lives they are “really” having a impact on aka destroying! I was taught from first grade: practice what we tell you to do, not because we do it ourselves. As a bas yisrael from one to another, I can only encourage: YOU have to be your own judge. Ask yourself before you see anything on your phone or do anything your parents tell you to do, as you go throughout life in general: would Hashem be happy? Would I make the Rebbe proud? That will be your guide… Read more »

Your point is well made!
March 8, 2022 1:40 pm

The bottom line, I would add, is what I tell my children and students: Use your phone—don’t let it use you!

Maybe get a phone box
March 8, 2022 1:42 pm

There are many companies that make phone boxes. You walk into the house, take off your shoes and put your phone away. Use a regular alarm clock

thank you!!!!
March 8, 2022 9:33 pm

as a teenage girl i agree so muuchhhh. everyone says that our generation is so low bla bla bla how we are always on phone and dont have self controll. well maybe when u were kids u didnt have phones bc u lived in the 1900s but now that u have phones u r allowedd to be on it all you want. you didnt grow up with a phone and its challenges, and the solution IS NOT to get rid of them ,its to work with them and help us and not ignore the fact that we have phones. i… Read more »

Nineties
Reply to  thank you!!!!
March 9, 2022 12:06 am

It’s sad how kids these days think 1990’s were a hundred years ago

Teen Girl
March 9, 2022 8:00 pm

I agree. ’bout time these teachers notice that to get the message across, you have to do the message too.

BURN THE PHONES
March 10, 2022 2:28 am

THE TITLE SAYS IT ALL.
MIC DROP

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